Why is Quicksilver in Two Movies? "X-Men: Days of Future Past" and Avengers: Age of Ultron"?
Why is Quicksilver in two different movies played by two different actors? Find out the confusing reason why two studios are fighting for the silver speedster.
Recently we got a great question by Ms. Mariah:
Q: I do wonder why there are two Quicksilvers? One in the Avengers and one in X-Men.
The short answer is that both Marvel and Twentieth Century Fox say they own Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch, so both studios are using the characters. Back when I made the Marvel Character Movie Infographic, I noted that the characters are the property of both Marvel Studios and Avengers. That's almost true. Each company says they own the characters for different reasons.
Who Are Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch?
- Scarlet Witch (aka Wanda Maximoff) a mutant that controls probability
- Quicksilver (aka Pietro Maximoff) a mutant that moves at super-speed
- Both are children of Magneto (aka Erik Lehnsherr)
They were created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby and first appeared in The X-Men #4 (1964) as members of Magneto's "Brotherhood of Evil Mutants," along with Toad and Mastermind. So, technically, Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are bad guys.
They don't become heroes until Avengers #16 (1965), when Captain America forms the second Avengers team using villains along with former villain Hawkeye. The Maximoff twins go on to be primary members of the Avengers, and Scarlet Witch is a member of "West Coast Avengers" and the "Defenders."
Who Owns the Rights to Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch?
- Marvel Studios owns the rights to Avengers
- 20th Century Fox owns the rights to mutants
In 2005, Avi Arad, the CEO of Marvel Studios, announced that they were planning to do a bunch of standalone movies that would lead to Avengers. It worked and they made the monumentally successful film Marvel's The Avengers. Marvel now firmly owns the rights to any characters that are Avengers. But it created an interesting vacuum.
If all mutants belong to Fox and all Avengers belong to Marvel Studios, what about mutants that are Avengers? Does that mean the studios have to work together? Kevin Feige, President of Marvel Studios, says no. "There are only a handful of characters that occupy that middle ground," Feige said. "Iron Man is not going to show up over there [at Fox] and Magneto is not going to show up over here [at Marvel]. But there are a few gray points even after many years of negotiations … and that only happens with a character like Quicksilver, who has been a part of the X-Men, the son of Magneto in those comics, but also a primary Avenger."
So, who owns the characters? Apparently, they both do. So the big question is: where are they going to show up?
How is Marvel Studios Using Them?
- Aaron Taylor-Johnson cast in Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015)
If Marvel can't call them mutants or have their father be Magneto, then who are they? The answer is in another movie. They showed up in the post-credits scene of Captain America: The Winter Soldier when Baron Von Strucker is talking about Hydra's super-secret project of volunteers. Most are dead, and Strucker says, "The dead will be buried so deep their ghosts won't be able to find them." When asked about the survivors, we see "the Twins." In two glass cells are a dude moving really fast and a girl (Elizabeth Olsen) floating boxes. Not much to look at, but if you know the characters, it's really, really exciting. They're not mutants, but part of some Hydra experiment. Taylor-Johnson said they're abandoned. "The thing to think about that [sic] he’s an abandoned child." he said, "Him and his sister are abandoned and they live in Eastern Europe. There’s more character aspects that I’m interested in than the power aspect." Marvel's Quicksilver isn't a mutant and Magneto isn't his Dad. Scarlett Witch will also be in Avengers 2.
Marvel has big plans for both of these guys.
Update: SPOILER After Quicksilver is killed in Avengers: Age of Ultron it remains to be seen if he'll be back. After all, Coulson survived Avengers.
How is Fox Using Them?
- Evan Peters cast in X-Men Days of Future Past (2014)
So, Fox isn't using him for much. Bryan Singer also confirmed that Scarlet Witch is not in the movie. So he's probably not a twin. Quicksilver is named Maximoff though. The weird thing is Evan Peters is 27 and Michael Fassbender, who plays Magneto, is 37. So, unless they're doing the old "I'm my own grandpa" thing, Quicksilver isn't Magneto's son. Fox's Quicksilver is a mutant, but Magneto isn't his Dad. Scarlet Witch will not be in X-Men.
Update: In Days of Future Past Pietro says, "They say you can manipulate metal. My mom used to know a guy who could do that." Many have said this is a reference to Erik being his father. It still doesn't explain the age, but he could be playing a teenager. It's happened before. So, it's possible Magneto is Quicksilver's father.
At IGN Simon Kinberg says, “The plan was to use him in [X-Men: Apocalypse] and have him expand his part and grow into the franchise. That was the thought. But now people have seen the movie and he’s one of the most beloved things in the film universally, there’s no question that he’s going to be a big part of the next movie.” So his "one scene" will be much larger in the next movie.
Update 2: X-Men: Apocalypse brings Quicksilver back and he says "Magneto is my father". Go figure.
What About the Costumes?
Both Fox and Marvel are playing conservative with the comic book costume. They both have white hair, but only one has the blue outfit. Neither has a lightning bolt.Now you know the whole sordid and confusing story. Some have asked if this is going to lead to a partnership with Fox and Marvel, but it's doubtful. While X-Men franchise producer Lauren Shuler Donner said she'd love to have a cross-over a year ago, but since then tensions have been slowly escalating as the movies get closer.
How do you feel about Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch being in two movie franchises? Does it make sense now? Would you like to see the two studios work together?
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At think at this point, placing them together wouldn't work.
ReplyDeleteI like the way the Avengers and Marvel will handle them and was excited to see them in the final credits of Captain America.
I'm a little apprehensive about them appearing in Avengers 2. With the first movie all the main characters had a separate movie to establish them (even though they changed actors with the Hulk) but Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch and Vision they seem to just be chucking out there into the movie with no setup. I'm not sure how well that will work, especially since your average non-fanboy probably won't know who they are.
ReplyDeleteQuicksilver has one of the coolest, iconic haircuts in comics and both studios don't seem to be getting it right!
ReplyDeletemy first thought... he just ran from set to set to be in both. i knew they were offspring of magneto, sort of... i think it will be interesting and don't think it will hurt any of the story-lines. i read somewhere that they were trying to introduce more unknown characters to the film, so we can know them.
ReplyDeleteHi guys, thanks for the explanation! Although it makes me a little sad that 20th Century Fox is using Quicksilver for just one scene and he's not even going to be Magneto's son. *sigh, another Bryan Singer comic book movie.
ReplyDeleteNow my head hurts. I wish Marvel never sold their rights, but then again there might not be a Marvel studio if X-men was not made. On the Bright side, as a DC fan I can rejoice that Batman and Superman can be in the same movie with Wonder Woman, and not worry about if Fox wants to make a Martian Manhunter or Cyborg movie. DC=WB
ReplyDeleteI like their names. Guess we'll see how it all plays out.
ReplyDeleteSeems to me there is too much money to be made for Fox and Marvel to allow a melding of characters
ReplyDeleteThis is so interesting, that they will double-bill.
ReplyDeleteWhen Quicksilver meets Magneto (and their powers), he said: "My mom knew someone like that", so maybe is Magneto his father :0
ReplyDeleteOoo I haven’t seen this movie yet. So maybe he is his Dad. The age thing would be weird though. Thanks Javiera!
ReplyDeleteQuicksilver will once again return in the next Xmen franchise, Apocalypse.
ReplyDelete"Neither has a lightning bolt." The Avengers version, in the pic here, certainly looks like he has one. Maybe it wraps around, but from the front it's clearly a lightning bolt.
ReplyDeleteGood point Felderburg. There’s definitely the impression of one, but nothing like the comic book version. Maybe it’s just the angle.
ReplyDeleteIts stupid it limits the creative powers. They need to crossover. Although X-Men DOFP was a phenomenal film they are limited
ReplyDeleteJust because Evan Peters is 27 doesn't mean his character is...it wouldn't be the first time a 20-something played a teen.
ReplyDeleteBesides...he did look like a teen in the movie and it was hinted that magneto was his dad anyway. Where he discovers magneto's ability to control metal and quicksilver says "my mum knew a guy who could do that".
ReplyDeleteAnd just because scarlet witch wasnt mentioned or shown in x men dofp doesnt mean she wasnt in the same house in her room texting boys or taking selfies...oh no wait. It was 1973...
He did have a little sister in the movie. She is sitting in his lap as he watches Magneto on TV. While his mother in the background stares in shock.
ReplyDeleteIn all honesty if they were to work together. They would have to ultimately redo the x men movies and then tie it all together.
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ReplyDeleteHe's fast metabolism will make him age faster than his sister. Duh!!!
ReplyDeleteLol, I bet Evan didn't play Aaron's friend in Kick Ass 2 because he probably felt snobby that he got to play an actual hero role. Then Aaron got the same role in a much more hype movie. #Rekt. Lol.
ReplyDeleteThey could at least go for some coherence between the stories. But I do know Quicksilver... and Scarlet Witch... are both Avengers and X-Men. And the costume in the coming Avengers movie is pretty good. Better than these, hehe.
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Polaris is the only child of magneto. magneto lied to the twins saying he is their father so they would join the mutant brotherhood
ReplyDeleteYou just said the witch wasn't in both movies?
ReplyDeleteright. No way they can just push them together now. All these catastrophic events happening on the same earth and neither one arrived to help the other. The amount of plot holes would be unbearable and it would lead up to a ultimate fail
ReplyDeleteIt will be another 10 years until these franchises come together. A total reboot would be needed. Both are too far in with their own story lines so doing it now would make no sense
ReplyDeleteAnd then there's Beast.
ReplyDeleteSo can Marvel Studios like Dr. Doom as an Iron Man or Avengers villain? He's way too big a villain in the MU to be confined to just the Fantastic Four franchise.
ReplyDeleteNo, he's strictly a property of 20th Century Fox. He is a major villain of the Avengers so you make a great point.
ReplyDeleteI really like wolverine n I hope to see more wolverine films without the x-men although I believe there will be another x-men cause of when they showed apocalypse at the end credits of days of futures past, as for quick silver it is confusing to me with him being in avengers n not considered a mutant just a test subject.
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I'm a fan of all Marvel related movies. Please figure out a way to start combining character stories ASAP. The way they put Avengers together was smart and exciting. Now I only hope to see combos like Hulk & Wolverine. Dr. Doom & Magneto villian team up vs. Fantastic 4 & Avengers with some Xmen like Wolverine and Colossus maybe Daredevil or Spiderman to really make us superfans go ape shht. This happens I promise to pay for a movie ticket and buy the blueray and not only stream online for free as i usually do.
ReplyDeleteEvan Peters is playing 18 excellent obviously because he is living at home with his mom
ReplyDeleteBut why in avengers quiksilver is orphan but not in x-men?
ReplyDeleteI'm guessing fox and disney struck a deal going by what happened
ReplyDeleteSO why is he killed off? Ggggrrrr...
ReplyDeleteWe're exactly 50% of the way to a cross-over movie, that's what you're actually saying here. That's progress, it's not negative.
ReplyDeleteFirst off, the Avengers already have waaaayyy too many expensive, successful actors. They can't add Hugh Jackman and Patrick Stewart onto that invoice. However....maybe an Andrew Garfield or a Paul Rudd?? There's a decent chance they might make the roster or be in a cross-over. But right now, the Avengers is just a way for Marvel to make everyone (other than Iron Man) relevant to the marvel universe. The other heroes don't need the Avengers, but at some point, the Avengers movies might take a downturn in public interest, and if that coincides with another big name taking a drop, who's to say it won't result in a cross-over?
Again, we are already 50% of the way there to getting a cross-over. It's a reasonable assumption that Superman vs Batman's success will inform the decision making process as to a Marvel crossover. Wait and see, we still have tons of story to get through before they need to do it :)
I'm an original kind of guy and grew up reading specifically Mabel comics. I took a wild guess about quicksilver and who he was and I was right. I'd like marvel and especially Stan to stick to the script!! And never deviate it means a lot to the old school fans of Marvel
ReplyDeleteThat's a good point and the thought of a movie explaining the whole magneto quicksilver scarlet dad thing wouldn't just be awesome but freakin brilliant!! Good show mate!
ReplyDeleteYo!!!! Hell yeah .. Im a big fan of this suggestion.. I remember spiderman being tested as an avenger by trying to capture the hulk. If they did the cross over thing maaan I'd go nutzz
ReplyDeleteIt doesn't matter what Fox says, they're Marvel characters and they will always be Marvel characters, not Fox characters. And it doesn't matter what happens in the film industry, it matters what happens in the source material. The twins will always be mutants, and Magneto will always be their father, whether the movies admit that or not.
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